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Review of various systems.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:31 pm
by chinoy
This is what I got started with and its TOTAL CRAP. It stopped working in 1 Day. You can buy this kit for 499/- online in India.
The worst e cig.
The worst e cig.
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This is what the insides look like.
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The problems with this kit.
a. It fails really fast.
b. The battery used is a joke its tiny.
c. The cartridges are low tech and dont last. Inside you have a little plastic cup. With a silver foil covering it with a few drops of liquid.

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:36 pm
by chinoy
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USB Dongle was also included to charge the Cig.
The Next setup I got was called the Healthy Smoker.
I picked it up at a shop near my house. On North Road. Sellers name Farok.
You can also buy it direct by calling this number on the box. Ph: 9036132382

The key thing to note with any system is what kind of thread is at which end.
In this case its a proper 510 male connector which means you can use these cartomizers on any 510 battery.


It cost Rs 650/- and contained the following items.
1. E Cig Battery (501 connector).
2. One Cartomizer
3. One USB Charger.

I found this to be much better. Each replacement cartomizer costs Rs 100/- has 300 puffs and lasted me a day.

After Sales support / Warranty ?.
Your joking right.
Its best you buy this at a shop. At the shop they will hook it up and show you that its working. If you get it delivered by calling the number. I guess you could check it before paying the guy.
Warranty just says that it wont be dead on arrival or when you buy it. Most shops will give you at best 24 hours to fix any problem. After that your on your own.

My Impression:
Prd, Rags and me all picked this up.
I feel if your on a really really tight budget you can stop with just this.
If you dont want to get stuck with a dead battery buy two.

Also pick up a tank of Liquid as these cartomizers can be re-filled.
Just use a tooth pick to lift off the white cover. And pour in a few drops.

You get all your flavors on the carto. And its the same story 16 MG for the fruit flavors and 24 mg for the tabaco flavors.
You get Marlboro / Benson & Hedges / Indian Tabaco etc. Check what carto you get with your kit. Some times the shop guy lets you change it.

I thought this was good. Till I tasted the smoke off a Tank.
After I got my tank. This has now been relegated to my back up.

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:05 pm
by hyu3907
Looks crappy.

My ex boss sells e cigg and is a big name in the e cig scene in UK

http://www.nicocigonline.co.uk/shop/ind ... ommon/home

Made by Ruyan in China they will make anything as per your specs.

They started off with rechargeable ones, did cigars for a while but the top seller is the disposable one.

Much cheaper than real smoke.

Id rather stay with normal smoke than this crap.


Cheers
Piyush

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:05 pm
by chinoy
The link you posted to is total crap over priced product. I fail to see why anybody would pay those rates. When you can order it from China with free shipping for a fraction of the cost.
Also the prices are Absurd. 2 Pounds for a carto is a rip off. In India they go for 80-100. Thats half the price.

Like I said most people make a call on e-cigs without all the facts.
Try a proper setup. It feels just like your smoking a Hooka. i.e. same amount of smoke, same good taste, same lubed exp. as the smoke is lubed in glycerin so it goes down smooth.

Yes nothing is going to match the satisfaction of a real smoke. But I cant afford to smoke. Its clear. Smoke and die within the year. Or stop and live for a few more years.
One day you may have to make that call. If you keep smoking.

I think guys who smoke 3-4 smokes a day are safe. Its the over 2 Pack Crowd that are headed for sure to the hospital.

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:27 pm
by Jaggu
I am using this since Dec 2013, haven't taken a single drag of analog since then.

http://www.kangeronline.com/products/ka ... learomizer

Running dekang 11 mg plain tobacco mix now, since the idea was to cut the dependency as much as possible :) Hangsen though more tasty somehow did not interested me for long.

Where i got my kit from http://healthcabin.net/

Use DHL for reliable clearance, though update KYC with them before placing order. Customs is having some issues these days.

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:46 am
by reaper
Jaggu, do you know if this can be purchased locally?

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:40 am
by Jaggu
reaper wrote:Jaggu, do you know if this can be purchased locally?
Yes available in india and has a small outlet in HSR, Bangalore. But darn expensive here.

http://www.ecigindia.com/PROTANK-2,%20K ... ROTANK%202

Headquarters
Electronic Cigarettes India
eCigIndia.com
#1500, 19th Main, 80 ft Road, Sector-1,
HSR Layout, Bangalore -560102
Ph: +91 (0) 8792896017
Email:sales@ecigindia.com/ ecigindia1@gmail.com
Skype: ecigindia
Landmark: Near Myntra office or near BMTC bus depot.

Telephone:
+91(0)9036899089/ (0) 8792896017

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:44 am
by chinoy
2K for a Knager is daylight robbery man.

Just got LITEJOY. From www.litejoy.co.in and for the first time in weeks. I took two puffs. And was able to put it down. Cause the quality of the liquid was so good.
The problem with all other brands is a lack of quality control in the liquid used and the quality and strength of nicotine. Esp. with the china brands.
Which is why I plan to get my nicotine from a US Lab and make my own e-juice.

A review off the Litjoy will be posted up in a bit.

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:51 pm
by Jaggu
chinoy wrote:2K for a Knager is daylight robbery man.
Yes! that is why i said its better to go for group buy and get stuff from china direct. Here its [-X

Protank as a product is really good, and bottom coil is really good is what i felt.

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 3:35 pm
by mohsihummer
im in for kanger if theres a group buy.
ordered a joyetech ego-t2 from esutta.com. waiting for it to arrive.
Havent recieved it yet.
Was wondeing how litejoy clearomizer compares with joyetech ego t. Any one tried both of em?
ego-t2 is rs 2550 for 650mah starter kit..
i see that with rdd discounts both cost the same.. however litejoy comes with clearomizer+1000mah batt vs tank+650mah for litejoy.
order might arrive in a day or two.. would be great if someone would recommend among joyetech egot vs litejoy e-shisha before then
links
litejoy e-shisha- approx2.6k after rdd discount
http://www.litejoy.co.in/ego-t/ego-t-re ... single-266

the one i ordered before realizing rdd has started a whole new section to the forum while i was busy
http://www.esutta.com/joye-ego/joye-ego ... r-kit.html

Kanger t2 and t3 available on esutta.com too


edit- tried to enter the coupon code on litejoy. didnt work

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:11 am
by mohsihummer
Recieved the unit from esutta today. Cost of e-liquid + Starter kit + Shipping is rs.3050/-. Paid by cash on delivery. I ordered an ego T2 kit(link above) however called and asked to deliver a kanger kit instead.

The kit contains
1 white ego-t upgrade/ego-t2 650mah battery,
1 2.4ml clearomizer.. dont know which company ones they(esutta.com) use. But judging by looks, its a kanger t2 or an imitation
1 Jomo usb charger

The packing sucked. It was just all the stuff wrapped in bubble wrap 3-4 rounds of.. no cardboard box, no protection..
They shipped it via a courier service called GoJaVAS. Not the best tracking but does the job.
Opened the package to find that the white ego batt is dirty.. Its seen its fair share of dirt before being shipped.. wasnt too happy with that.. the battery was almost fully charged when i got it. Screwed in the clearomizer, poured in the liquid and its ready to go. The liquid i ordered was Henseng USA mix high nicotine. must be 1.8% though the percentage isnt given anywhere on the bottle. The bottle itself has a high quality cap which needs to be pressed and turned to unscrew. USA Mix is just tobacco flavour.. after taste isnt strong though it smell and tastes like wet tobacco (like RAJA khaini, not dried cig tobacco). If you want tobacco taste, buy this. However, if you, like me prefer hookah flavours, get something else like apple flavour
The throat hit is strong.. around the same as an original red davidoff cig. I wasnt expecting this. almost coughed. next time, will order medium nicotine e-juice.

About the batt- the difference between Ego upgrade(also called t2) vs Ego-t is that this unit has two modes-
1 is regulated at 3.6v
2- unregulated and varies with batt charge from 4.2v to 3.6v.
The light in the batt changes colour depending on the mode selected
White colour- regulated.. colour supposedly changes to dark blue as battery get low though. battery isnt low yet so cant give you a gaurantee
Orange colour - unregulated. No batt indicator in this mode.(the light looks orange in photo but is closer to yellow)
Edit: Ego t upgrade doesnt come with low batt warning. Ego c upgrade does.
Been using it for more than 5 hours now and the batt still isnt showing low batt light. Actually, 2 people smoked it for 3 hours. Was thinking that i minght need a 1000mah batt.. but looks like i dont. Theres no light at the end of battery like in some ecigareetes(to mimic a real cig) which imo is a good thing. It feels solid and build quality is good.
The e-cig is surprisingly satisfying. I smoke 10 cigs a day. Today, smoked just 3.
The hit is so strong that youll take a break after 5-7 puffs.
As of now i am completely satisfied with the e-cig(the packaging and dirt on batt excluded). Wouldnt be hard to quit cigs with this in hand.
As for the e-liquid consumption rate, after 6 hours the e-liquid level in clearomizer has dropped from 1.8ml to 0.4ml. This is after 2 people using it for 3+ hours. so a bottle of e-liquid should last 6-10 days.
The 2 reasons on me buying this- supposedly safer, and the increasing prices on Kings/Clasic milds cigarerettes. I started smoking when they cost rs.4 and they are now 9 rupees.. they gone from 6 to 9 rupees in a year. it was getting costly.

The Charger looks like chinese stuff.. not the best but not too delicate either.. It shows green when no batt it attached. turns red when attached with a green blink every 7 seconds. One batt is full, changes to green colour. the batt just blinks 3 times when connected and doesnt show any sign when its fully charged.

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Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:17 am
by mohsihummer
This is more of an E-Hookah than an e-cig. The fluid is similar to whats in a hookah and hence so is the smoke.. While it might not match the exact taste of a cig, Its close. For somone wanting to quit, Surely close enough.

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 3:04 pm
by chinoy
Dude at least you got an original bat.
I got my rig from
http://www.ecigindia.com/

The sales guy had a bag full off open Bats.
He pulled out one which was supposed to be 1000 Mah. And I blew 4K on
a. 1000 Mah EGO-Twist Bat. Which wont even last me 2 hours.
b. A T2 Top Coil Kanger Tank. Which is just like yours i.e. its a cheap 2$ clone.
c. I got a can of Water Mellon Juice. Rs 390/-
Total Bill Rs 3900/-
I did not even get a charger.
Hence I feel like Ive been ripped off.
Ive phoned up their guy who sold me this stuff he says he will come and look into it. But he has still not showed up after a week.


Im ok with them over charging like crazy. But at least keep your customers happy.

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:05 pm
by motor
mohsihummer wrote:tried to enter the coupon code on litejoy. didnt work
Worked for me dude...

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:23 pm
by mohsihummer
@motor will try again
@ron The reason i didnt order from ecigindia is cause esutta was cheaper most of the time. Maybe you should give it a try. Im surprised with the batt life im getting Been. vaping from 5pm to 2am and still didnt run outta batt. Not even a low batt warning. If you do order from esutta, call em up and tell em you'll return it if its not proper and new. Refer them to my id-mohsihummer and state the white dirty batt.. The kanger t2 starter kit costs 2600 there. And with the kick im getting, the liquid doesnt seem diluted. So i guess its much better than ecig india.. Like i said before, Im not completely happy but it'll do. So wont return the batt. No complaints with clearomizer so far.. 0 dripping, works well even with 02-0.3ml of fluid in tank without need of tilting/priming
http://esutta.com/e-cigarette-kits/custom-t2-kit.html
http://esutta.com/e-cigarette-kits/cust ... s-kit.html
Any medium or low nicotine flavour suggentions from litejoy/hangseng/dekang? Will order new eliquid in a day or two
Also, will try making own e-liquid today- 0% nicotine..

Ego twist on esutta- 2.5k
http://www.esutta.com/joye-ego/1000mah-ego-c-twist.html

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 11:37 am
by chinoy
Yeah esutta do seem to have the best deals and prices.
I predict that prices are going to crash. Just wait and watch. Prices are falling at an absurd rate as it is.
Finally prices between china and india will work out to be the same.

Keeping on topic which is review of various systems.
http://www.rddreams.com/forum/viewtopic ... 48&t=27395

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:30 pm
by reaper
1350 for joyetech liquid vs 350 for hangsen?how long does 30 ml even last?

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:18 pm
by mohsihummer
1350 is for 30ml joyetech
1050 is for 30ml dekang
300 is for 10ml dekang
I seem to be consuming 3ml a day @16mg. so i guess would last 10 days. In india, it works out costing a lil more than normal cigarettes..
Buy it from fasttech or some d.i.y and it ends up being much much cheaper than e-cigs
fasttech sells 100ml eliquid for <rs800. 100/3=33 days..
http://www.fasttech.com/product/1190640 ... e-e-liquid
add replacement coils at rs250 for 5 units every 2 months and it costs 1/3 of normal cigs..
This based on 10cigs a day, which i used to smoke.

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:58 pm
by reaper
so, let me try to understand this.
I need a tank.
I need a battery.
I need a charger.
I need e-liquid.
is that it?
if so, does this thing make sense?
http://www.ecigindia.com/Vapin-kaiser-e ... -Smart-Kit

For a guy who goes through about 1 pack of gold flakes a day, the chat support guys on various sites said 6mg nicotine should cut it for me.That kit looks like it's got everything i need, but i'm a little confused about how long the stupid coils last on a tank.Ron says about 2 month(i don;t really remember the conversation details too well).They also have replacement coils, s should i stock up?
I'm hoping to place the order sometime soon, so if anyone can help me make a selection, it would be appreciated.

Re: Review of various systems.

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:48 pm
by mohsihummer
Battery, Tank, Charger.. all you need.
Looks like it has what you need. Id say get the cheapest 650mah kit you know works and can get your hands on. This and the esutta kit costs the same. The two questions are- is the batt good and can does it have unregulated mode. If yes, go for it.. get a spare set of coils.. they actually come in 5 packs. one 5-pack is enough. They should last you long enough.
Once you've started, order stuff from abroad. Use indian stuff only when you dont have an option. Too bloody costly. No idea how long the coils last.. ive read number as low as a week. Mine is going on for a week now. it should last 2 weeks or more.
As for fluid, get 10ml bottles of diff flavours and strength.. once you know how much nicotine you want, and what flavours you like, you can buy 30ml's.
ask ron if you should buy from ecigindia.. like its written here, He didnt have a good experience. Though its not like you have much choice when buying locally. ecigindia, litejoy and esutta.
Im not a fan of pure tobacco flavours. experiment.
You dont want to run out of e-juice or coils. Youll end up starting smoking again till you get new ones..
For me quitting has been easy. I didnt have to control from buying cigs.. Didnt have any craving for em. Plus, i find e-cigs more tasty and easy.
650mah is the lowest batt power id suggest.
as for nicotine, id suggest 12,16mg. Wouldnt want to start off with strong nic.
will try to post a buyers guide later..
Feel free to contact me