What we all can do to improve our Community.

Post by **chinoy** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:23 pm

I am confident that we can not only be the best online comunity in India. But we can be out there with the best in the world.

We all need to contribute towards making this happen.
I feel we have our definate strengths.

THe largest strength off all is that we are Indians. We are open to new ideas, we are warm, generous large hearted, hospitable people. This needs to be tempered with good technical posts. Not just tons of nice bike / car dude posts. We are also quite inteligent. Our drawbacks are the frog in the well mentality. But that thankfully is only towards each other.

The key to the sucess of any comunity is got to be as Tom put it the "Feel Good Factor"
Which means.
1. Nobody wants to be made to look stupid. Agree or disagree with somebody but never make them look stupid.
2. No matter how stupid somebody may come across as. They are all inteligent people who have something to contribute.
3. Each member must feel a sence of ownership and pride in the comunity.

You guys think up your own ideas on how we can improve the comunity.
And get more people playing an active role online.

Growing up I realised it dosent matter what Bike or car your own. Its only your determination to learn and improve that counts. Never give up. Keep going.
Everybody here has paid a heafty rpice to pursue their automotive dreams. This is the glue that holds us together.

Ps: I realize maybe razing new members maynot be such a bright idea.

Ramchand · Post by **Ramchand** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:17 am

Ps: I realize maybe razing new members maynot be such a bright idea.

But Ron there will be some ribbing going on amoung friends all the time , i think it will help in bonding as long as it is done in a friendly manner and as you mentioned in some other post the recipient should be able to take it as well ,in the same friendly way. But if there is some one coming in with an attitude problem in my opinion he is asking for it.

Post by **GerardFdz** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:32 pm

No matter how stupid somebody may come across as.

Often what the person has on his mind does not get properly translated into words/phrases or even terms that are understood by the reader!

Not just tons of nice bike / car dude posts

While this is encouraging it probably loads up the server!?

Post by **chinoy** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:37 pm

After a long break I went back looking for answers on some foregin online forums.
Needless to say the experience was far from pleasent.
I thought Id do a post on what I didnt like about the forums. And How to make sure we never reach that state. Formulate some golden rules. That we all follow.

1. Never make it personal.
Learn to agree or disagree without jumping up and down like a monkey on hot tin roof.
Avoid comments such as
"You dont know anything",
"your stupid"
"Total Bullshit"
"Your a moron"

Learn to agree or disagree without geting too excited. Put forth your views/arguement in a calm logical manner.

2. Spend Money or be willing to spend money is the only answer/way to all your problems.

People looking for help or suport on forums. Are not stupid. THey know how to buy stuff. Spend money or wheel their engines in. But they are obviouslly looking for a cheaper route to achive better results. Too much emphasis is spent on a persons spending ability. It shouldnt matter if the guy is rich or poor. Wether he wants to do something himself or not. Share information and let the person decide what to spend on and what not to.
Many guys take their work to competitors garages. I still give them the same ammount as help as anybody else. We have allways encouraged people to learn and do their own thing. The answer to all problems is not Take it to Chinoy or RDD to be fixed. It is possible to do it your self. And save money. If it isnt the realisation has to come from inside not forced on anybody.

3. Ego's are fragile.
Try not to hurt the other guys ego/feeling.
They may be wrong. Or they may not. Their post may make no sence. But somewhere down the line they still contribute something to the community.

4. You are not valued by how much money you can spend.
We have a number of regulars and moderators that have never had any tranaction with RDD. You do not need to be a customer or be a potential customer to have your questions answered.

5. All quires should be responded to. If by chance I miss a question. Other members should try their best to stp up to the plate and give it a shot at trying to help your fellow brother out. No post should go without a responce for more than 24 hours.

Oldtimers you will know that this is how Ive been trying to moderate this place from day 1.
Lets try and keep it that way.

ScarySkulls · Post by **ScarySkulls** » Sat May 28, 2005 9:06 pm

My suggestion:-

We should not pick on new guys very soon.........( http://www.rddreams.com/rddreams/html/i ... pic&t=6290 )
We have to understand that sometimes the questions they ask are so darn stupid that we feel they are wasting our time....but that is not always the case.......
We should get our sarcastic caps on only if a particular member continues posting bullshit all over the forums.......

Another suggestion:-
Ron should post up a notice on this thread( http://www.rddreams.com/rddreams/html/i ... forum&f=23 ) that parts are not for sale to indians..........
Will save both them and ron the hassles of enquiries about the parts thru phone/email/pm.............

Post by **iomega** » Sun May 29, 2005 2:01 am

@Ron does this mean u gonna let me know whts wrong with all them four stroke head mods goin on??

Ram
p.s its still robbin my sleep.. n i dont seem to have enough experience to find out wht thats abt.

Post by **chinoy** » Sun May 29, 2005 2:18 am

RDD does sell parts in India.
The I dont sell my parts in India is an excuse saved up to get time wasters off my back.
Ive had too many of them.
It could also be that we allready have too many orders / work to take on any more.

THis forum is about geting you to think for yourself.
Use your brains. You havent slept for 2 days thinking about it Bo hoo.
Ive spent hours every night for the past 10 years thinking about engines.
Simplly cause there was nobody out there to give me the answers. If there was a Ron Chinoy out there that had all the answers I would never have used my own brains.

ScarySkulls · Post by **ScarySkulls** » Sun May 29, 2005 8:50 am

chinoy wrote:RDD does sell parts in India.

Ok ..... and how do u qualify those "lucky" ones to whom u CAN supply parts..????

Post by **chinoy** » Sun May 29, 2005 11:53 am

send in a request to rdchinoy@gmail.com

There is a simple rule serious guys pay up first and talk later.
If its just a lot of e-mails bouncing arround its a waste of time.
And time is a very precious comodity for me.

ScarySkulls · Post by **ScarySkulls** » Sun May 29, 2005 1:42 pm

But how do U expect someone to pay if a corny "I DON'T SELL IN INDIA" reply is given.........??????
We needed the bushes immediately, so disturbed u on phone.......
If u remember, after ur reply, we agreed to pay U thru england because we value ur work highly........
But now a different reply "I DON'T SELL TO INDIANS"

Itching to quote the full incident here and also the about the phone call after we prepared the bushings ourselves using cnc machines....(or some other imported machines; can't tell exactly 'cuz my friend did all the work)

ScarySkulls · Post by **ScarySkulls** » Sun May 29, 2005 1:46 pm

Agreed that a LOT of jokers disturb u everyday, but there HAS to be a way of distinguishing between the genuine guys and the time wasters........
So there comes the next suggestion.......think of such a system..........

Kunal · Post by **Kunal** » Sun May 29, 2005 2:49 pm

Well I remember an incident too ron,where u agreed to sell new Rd barrells to me ,I first spoke to u on the phone and u said u don't do business on the phone and asked me to send u a mail,u fixed the sale price,I agreed,three days later u reply saying u don't wanna sell them...did leave a bitter feeling.. and as scaryskulls says and i tend to agree with him...is that not everyone around on the forum are a bunch of jokers .. agreed that there a few whose posts may not sound too logical but u've got to remember that this is an open forum and posts like this will keep coming up...AND pls Ron I don't agree with your I DON'T SELL IN INDIA ATTITUDE ,thats gotta change man!!!
Since u brought this topic up I've posted what i feel.
But no hard feelings man.

ScarySkulls · Post by **ScarySkulls** » Sun May 29, 2005 5:16 pm

Kunal wrote:I agreed,three days later u reply saying u don't wanna sell them...did leave a bitter feeling

Exactly.........

Anyways Ron, we still and will always honour ur work.......
Actually the fact that my friend who prefers to do all work by himself and trusts nobody, trusted ur work highly......
He still does, but everytime we need some part or the other and I suggest your name, pat comes the reply-> "I've had bitter experience with Ron"...

So please sir, can some way be thought of to separate the lemons from the plums.....???????

Ramchand · Post by **Ramchand** » Mon May 30, 2005 12:11 am

i did several transcations with RDdreams.com and i am a completely satisfied customer, buying from Ron is actually a no hassles affair, you look up the price for parts on the eindian site send a dd and an email that is it with in one or 2 weeks the parts are at my doorstep in a fine packaging.
the list of parts which i got is endless, starting from complete front end , pistons and rings , conrods , clutch plates, brake shoes, analogue and digital cdi, complete switch gear and wiring harness, to name a few....

Post by **chinoy** » Mon May 30, 2005 1:57 am

Fair enougf will work on a better system.
But this community and how I do business are two seprate issues.
What I give to this comunity in terms of time and knowledge is seprate from the business end of things.

ScarySkulls · Post by **ScarySkulls** » Mon May 30, 2005 7:17 am

Yes sir....I respect every opinion or yours.....

It's good that u have agreed to work on a better system.........

ScarySkulls · Post by **ScarySkulls** » Mon May 30, 2005 7:27 am

Ramchand wrote:ibuying from Ron is actually a no hassles affair, you look up the price for parts on the eindian site send a dd and an email that is it with in one or 2 weeks the parts are at my doorstep in a fine packaging.

Thanks mate......
Hmmm... should have looked up on the buying procedure first.....but there is none.....Ron u should start a sticky on "Procedure on buying parts from RDD"........

That will help quite a lot and "jokers" like me won't end up disturbing U on phone.....

Thanks.
Rajat.

superderek · Post by **superderek** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:15 am

Just read your forum guidelines boss.

Well written and it explains how a forum should work.

I am impressed by the way this forum runs and the good natured community that uses it.

Well it was ok then that mad English man came on here

If you think I ever overstep the mark then please sayso. I never wish to offend anyone. All my riibing is done for some fun and I hope it raises a smile here and there. too much sadness in the world nowadays

superderek · Post by **superderek** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:17 am

Give old scary skull a sandwich, looks like he needs it. Ain't gonna get a girl with a face like that